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inside, 84-year-old ursula nixon. these are just bystanders who happen to see the crash happen, and they dove literally into action. >> there are also two police officers. >> pay close attention to this woman right here. that's katy nelson. she was eating lunch nearby. she jumped into the water and got inside the back window while these other good samaritans are holding her legs. she gets inside the back window. the 84-year-old woman says, i do not want to die in the back of this car. she says, you're not going to, and pulls her out of the car. watch as the woman in aqua comes out this back window. that's ursula nixon. they get her out just as the car sinks beneath the surface of the water. >> oh, my goodness. this whole time the car is just slowly sinking. you see it sinking and sinking and sinking. you just don't know what's going to happen. >> wcsh spoke to kay nelson about this incident. >> i saw that car sinking and saw the window. i'm like, she's too scared to move. i just jumped in and swam. >> they're risking their own lives jumping in here. they could have easily gotte
for him. which lead to lesson three. appearances count above all. jfk, tan. nixon just out of the hospital, pale. refusing proquestional make -- refusing professional makeup. reagan's people fussed more over his than mondale's did over his. reagan always had a glass of wean just before going on to get rosie cheeks. lesson four, real debate sowing -- lesson four, real debating, so far after 52 years, not actually required here. so relax. learn your lines. don't sneak in a look at your wristwatch. because that will definitely hurt you. beside, 90 minutes and you are done. possibly for good. john donvan, abc news, washington. >> possibly for good. nice line there. >> that's how rob gets his cheeks nice and rosie. takes it from the old gipper. >> nice, glass of wine, relaxes you, gives you the blush. it works. i think there is so much choreography that goes behind the debates. it really is fascinating what a made-for-tv event they have become since 1960 when they first started nixon/kennedy. >> i imagine you would be a great debater. >> go ahead and say it. >> no. >> a joke you, know you want
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